Evie Brockwell

What happens when two product people stop chasing perfection and start talking honestly about the job? In this episode, Karl is joined by Evie Brockwell and Michael Palmer for a wide-ranging, refreshingly human conversation about what product work really feels like day to day. Michael shares the excitement and pressure of stepping into BBC iPlayer, including the surreal experience of watching real people sit on a couch in a mock living room while testing new ideas for one of the UK’s most iconi...